Re: Teorie sulla Non - Morte!

Da Moonwalker95 Dom Mar 28, 2010 7:57 pm

Promemoria primo messaggio :

Non ha fatto niente di male..più chiaro di così... Cool

Ok quindi inizio a proporre l'iniziativa sul forum di black e un altro... Wink

Da CicoMichael777 Mar Mar 30, 2010 1:36 am

pure io....
doma posto tutti i tweets di tito!!!è matto.. Cool

Da MusicIsPower Mar Mar 30, 2010 5:23 am

Se l'idea è quella di mettere solo la pulce nell'orecchio forse è meglio Voyager, perchè le puntate non si focalizzano su un solo argomento ma contengono più temi che vengono affrontati con filmati con una voce narrante. Magari potrebbero dedicare all'hoax solo un servizio e non l'intera puntata, come invece farebbe Matrix. Infatti finchè Vinci arriva al fatidico "Thank you, good night and see you soon!" passano quasi due ore...troppe se si vuol mettere solo la pulce nell'orecchio... E in fondo Voyager è quello che dice tutto ed il contrario di tutto. Basta considerare che prima ha seminato panico col fatto del 2012 e le profezie catastrofiche e poi dopo ha cominciato a ritrattare. E forse è per questa ritrattazione continua che man mano è scaduto a molti. Poi considerando che spesso a Voyager non chiamano gente MOOOOLTO più esperta sugli alieni fa pensare...
Mi sarebbe piaciuto Mistero forse perchè ci sta Ruggeri. E anche lì affrontano più argomenti in una stessa puntata. Atlantide mi sembra più serio e più lungo ma non so se La 7 di pomeriggio è vista tanto quanto gli altri programmi che si fanno di sera.
L'unico inghippo è che per adesso non sappiamo se tornerà Mistero mentre Matrix c'è fino a quest'estate. E per Voyager ho appena letto sul sito ufficiale che tornerà ad aprile.
Restano TV 7 e Terra o ancora quel programma Speciale TG 1 che va in onda di domenica sera e che dura un'oretta e che quando si occupa di qualche cantante, contiene il servizio fatto da Mollica. Infatti, Mollica ha fatto puntate su Ligabue, su Vasco, su Reitano, su Baglioni, su Fiorello, su Renato Zero...e ancora non ha fatto una puntata dedicata ad MJ!

Ragazzi, però chiediamo consiglio a Black. Non so se sia nostro compito organizzare una cosa simile. Se ci pensiamo, l'articolo di Panorama avrà pur messo qualche pulce nell'orecchio anche se mediante uno sfottò non gradito a noi believers.
Vogliamo chiedere consiglio a Black? Magari potrà chiedere alla sua fonte se è una buona idea.

Da _TiA_ Mar Mar 30, 2010 11:59 am

ragazzi invece che mandare la mail ai vari Voyager,Mistero,Top Secret...perchè non la mandiamo a Almost True,è un programma che va in onda su Deejay TV ed è condotto da Luccarelli(che,con tutto il rispetto x gli altri,lui i misteri li sa trattare...e ho visto solo una puntata dedicata a David Bowie dove ha fatto dei collegamenti assurdi ma interessanti)...che ne dite???

Da Naila Mar Mar 30, 2010 12:19 pm

_TiA_ ha scritto:ragazzi invece che mandare la mail ai vari Voyager,Mistero,Top Secret...perchè non la mandiamo a Almost True,è un programma che va in onda su Deejay TV ed è condotto da Luccarelli(che,con tutto il rispetto x gli altri,lui i misteri li sa trattare...e ho visto solo una puntata dedicata a David Bowie dove ha fatto dei collegamenti assurdi ma interessanti)...che ne dite???

TIA non va bene

AMOST TRUE vuol dire QUASI VERO
e' implicito nel programma che le tesi riportate sono falsissime

Da MαdisonMJMercury• Mar Mar 30, 2010 12:23 pm

Good morning guys Smile

Notizia Tmz Michael&Company:
Conrad Murray - Michael Was Alive at UCLA ( Come mi piace quel "Michael Was Alive" figo

)

TMZ has learned doctors who worked on Michael Jackson at the UCLA Medical Center ran two EKGs on the singer, and at least one doctor who interpreted the results claims there was heart rhythmic activity both times.

Teorie sulla Non - Morte! - Pagina 5 0329_m10

Furthermore, sources tell TMZ Dr. Conrad Murray insists he was able to restart Jackson's heart at the singer's home before paramedics arrived and then maintained heart activity in the ambulance.
Dr. Murray's evaluation contradicts paramedics at the scene who wanted to take Jackson to the morgue, not UCLA, because they believed he was dead.
It also contradicts Joe Jackson's lawyer, Brian Oxman, who tells TMZ he believes Jackson was dead even before paramedics arrived at the house. Oxman says the weak pulse detected at UCLA was in reaction to resuscitation efforts.
We're told the criminal case is shaping up as a legal war between medical experts, who will be interpreting medical tests and charts in various ways -- always confusing for a jury.

Traduzione con Google:
Conrad Murray - Michael era ancora in vita a UCLA

TMZ ha imparato i medici che hanno lavorato Michael Jackson al UCLA Medical Center correva su due elettroencefalogrammi il cantante, e almeno un medico che ha interpretato le affermazioni risultati non c'era attività cardiaca ritmica entrambe le volte.
Inoltre, le fonti dicono TMZ Il dottor Conrad Murray insiste che lui è stato in grado di riavviare il cuore di Jackson a casa del cantante prima di paramedici arrivati e poi mantenuta l'attività cardiaca in ambulanza.
valutazione dottor Murray contraddice paramedici alla scena che ha voluto prendere Jackson all'obitorio, non UCLA, perché credevano che fosse morto.
Essa contraddice anche l'avvocato Joe Jackson, Brian Oxman, Che dice a TMZ che crede Jackson era morto ancor prima che i paramedici arrivati a casa. Oxman ha detto il polso debole rilevato alla UCLA era in reazione agli sforzi di rianimazione.
Ci è stato detto il procedimento penale si delinea come una guerra legale tra gli esperti medici, che sarà interpretare i test medici e grafici in vari modi - sempre fonte di confusione per una giuria.
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Oddio, quante versione dei fatti! Ora dice che Murray ha riavviato il cuore di Michael a casa sua prima che arrivassero i paramedici Neutral

Da ^Vale-Heal the world-^ Mar Mar 30, 2010 12:23 pm

_TiA_ ha scritto:ragazzi invece che mandare la mail ai vari Voyager,Mistero,Top Secret...perchè non la mandiamo a Almost True,è un programma che va in onda su Deejay TV ed è condotto da Luccarelli(che,con tutto il rispetto x gli altri,lui i misteri li sa trattare...e ho visto solo una puntata dedicata a David Bowie dove ha fatto dei collegamenti assurdi ma interessanti)...che ne dite???

buon giorno a tutti Very Happy

ciao TIA l'avevo proposto anche io almost true, nonostante non avessi visto neanche una puntata ma solo la pubblicità.. ma l'abbiamo bocciato perché hanno detto che molte cose le "inventano" .. non ricordo bene.. qualche pagina indietro ci dovrebbe essere il messaggio di musicispower che spiega bene tutto, visto che una puntata l'ha seguita..

Da _TiA_ Mar Mar 30, 2010 12:55 pm

ok scartato...mi piaceva perchè c'è Luccarelli!!!!! Wink

...quindi restano Voyager, Mistero(che preferisco agli altri), Top Secret(personalmente direi di no perchè la puntata che ha fatto quest'estate non mi è piaciuta)!!!!!!

si in effetti ho visto una sola puntata e alla fine dopo i titoli di coda esce una frase che dice "i personaggi e i temi trattati non appartengono alla realtà" (più o meno diceva questo goccia

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Da ESMERALDA Mar Mar 30, 2010 1:03 pm

_TiA_ ha scritto:ok scartato...mi piaceva perchè c'è Luccarelli!!!!! ...quindi restano Voyager, Mistero(che preferisco agli altri), Top Secret(personalmente direi di no perchè la puntata che ha fatto quest'estate non mi è piaciuta)!!!!!!

be allora top secret scartiamolo restano mistero matrix e voyager cosa dcidiamo?le mandiamo a tutte(per avere piu possibilita) o solo a 1 trasmissione?

Da *Ciccia76mj* Mar Mar 30, 2010 1:05 pm

Anche io son daccordo sullo scartare Top secret.....in estate hanno infangato
ancora una volta il nome di Michael.... spad

Da MJ-Moonwalk Mar Mar 30, 2010 1:37 pm

top secret se e quello presentato da brachino hanno solo infangato MJ squallido davvero

Da Annie95_MJ Mar Mar 30, 2010 2:31 pm

Buongiorno believers, vi prego ho un disperato bisogno di un riassuntino...è vero che avete scoperto dove si trova Michael? se c'è qualcuno che può mandarmi un pm con le ultime news...grazieee

Da Applehead1993 Mar Mar 30, 2010 2:41 pm

*Ciccia76mj* ha scritto:Anche io son daccordo sullo scartare Top secret.....in estate hanno infangato
ancora una volta il nome di Michael....

Da Shamone 88 Mar Mar 30, 2010 4:26 pm

Ultime da Tmz
Conrad Murray - Michael Was Alive at UCLA

Posted Mar 30th 2010 9:00AM by TMZ Staff

TMZ has learned doctors who worked on Michael Jackson at the UCLA Medical Center ran two EKGs on the singer, and at least one doctor who interpreted the results claims there was heart rhythmic activity both times.

Furthermore, sources tell TMZ Dr. Conrad Murray insists he was able to restart Jackson's heart at the singer's home before paramedics arrived and then maintained heart activity in the ambulance.

Dr. Murray's evaluation contradicts paramedics at the scene who wanted to take Jackson to the morgue, not UCLA, because they believed he was dead.

It also contradicts Joe Jackson's lawyer, Brian Oxman, who tells TMZ he believes Jackson was dead even before paramedics arrived at the house. Oxman says the weak pulse detected at UCLA was in reaction to resuscitation efforts.

We're told the criminal case is shaping up as a legal war between medical experts, who will be interpreting medical tests and charts in various ways -- always confusing for a jury.

Read more: http://www.tmz.com/2010/03/30/conrad-murray-michael-jackson-heart-ekg-paramedics-ucla-medical-center-wrongful-death/#ixzz0jfMO6lSt

Da MαdisonMJMercury• Mar Mar 30, 2010 4:27 pm

Shamo, l'ho postato anche io prima la notiza ma nessuna l'ha cagata lol!

Da Shamone 88 Mar Mar 30, 2010 4:37 pm

mea culpa mea culpa....scusa terry Embarassed

Coincidenze da seeing clues:

9282 Days
DEVELOPING STORY....

Ok everyone, I had hesitated posting this because I couldn't find enough of a tie in, until _Xscape_ on Twitter gave me a photo that at least made this worth mentioning.

This may need to be filed under "very odd coincidences" as this is a breaking story that is still being researched.

It is starting to become mainstream news that there were exactly 9282 days between Michael Jackson's birth in August 29, 1958, to the Pepsi incident on January 27, 1984, and exactly 9282 days between that event and June 25, 2009.

Teorie sulla Non - Morte! - Pagina 5 9282mj

Teorie sulla Non - Morte! - Pagina 5 9282mj

At the same time, 9282 days is significant in another way. It was 9282 days since the Philadelphia Phillies won their last world series when they finally won in October 2008. This article was posted on October 29, 2008, about one year before This Is It was released in the theaters:

Teorie sulla Non - Morte! - Pagina 5 9282nyt

Teorie sulla Non - Morte! - Pagina 5 9282nyt

Completely unrelated stories, but uncanny in the fact that they are both tied to "9282 days". I had discovered this previously but couldn't find any type of tie-in.

Then, a blog reader named _XScape_ sends me the following newly released photo. It is from a website called 24/7 Smash that has released some rare video of MJ, and immediately after shows a gold coffin. The significance? Once of the men in the image is wearing a Philadelphia Phillies baseball cap!!!!

Spoiler:

The video can be found here:
http://www.smash247.com/star/news/details/video-michael-jackson-makabere-geldmacherei-nach-seinem-tod-0656/

This is a very odd coincidence and we are in the process of researching further...

(Fonte: http://seeingclues.blogspot.com/)

Da _TiA_ Mar Mar 30, 2010 4:46 pm

interessante...altra "strana coincidenza" rid

(comunque l'uomo col cappellino dei Phillies dovrebbe essere quello col cappello rosso...scusate il gioco di parole xD)

Da ^Vale-Heal the world-^ Mar Mar 30, 2010 4:47 pm

Shamone 88 ha scritto:mea culpa mea culpa....scusa terry

Coincidenze da seeing clues:

9282 Days
DEVELOPING STORY....

Ok everyone, I had hesitated posting this because I couldn't find enough of a tie in, until _Xscape_ on Twitter gave me a photo that at least made this worth mentioning.

This may need to be filed under "very odd coincidences" as this is a breaking story that is still being researched.

It is starting to become mainstream news that there were exactly 9282 days between Michael Jackson's birth in August 29, 1958, to the Pepsi incident on January 27, 1984, and exactly 9282 days between that event and June 25, 2009.

At the same time, 9282 days is significant in another way. It was 9282 days since the Philadelphia Phillies won their last world series when they finally won in October 2008. This article was posted on October 29, 2008, about one year before This Is It was released in the theaters:

Completely unrelated stories, but uncanny in the fact that they are both tied to "9282 days". I had discovered this previously but couldn't find any type of tie-in.

Then, a blog reader named _XScape_ sends me the following newly released photo. It is from a website called 24/7 Smash that has released some rare video of MJ, and immediately after shows a gold coffin. The significance? Once of the men in the image is wearing a Philadelphia Phillies baseball cap!!!!

Spoiler:

The video can be found here:
http://www.smash247.com/star/news/details/video-michael-jackson-makabere-geldmacherei-nach-seinem-tod-0656/

This is a very odd coincidence and we are in the process of researching further...

(Fonte: http://seeingclues.blogspot.com/)

Traduzione con google:

9.282 giorni
SVILUPPO DI STORIA ....

Tutti Ok, avevo esitato distacco questo perché non riuscivo a trovare un numero sufficiente di parità di voti, in cui fino _Xscape_ su Twitter mi ha dato una foto che almeno questo fatto degno di nota.

Questo può essere necessario filed under "molto strano coincidenze" come questa è una storia di rottura che è ancora oggetto di ricerca.

Si sta cominciando a diventare mainstream news che ci sono stati esattamente 9.282 giorni tra la nascita di Michael Jackson in 29 agosto 1958, per l'incidente Pepsi il 27 gennaio 1984, ed esattamente 9.282 giorni tra tale evento e 25 giugno 2009.

(immagine)

Allo stesso tempo, 9.282 giorni è significativa in un altro modo. E 'stato 9.282 giorni in quanto i Philadelphia Phillies vinto le World Series scorso, quando finalmente ha vinto nel mese di ottobre 2008. Questo articolo è stato pubblicato il 29 ottobre 2008, circa un anno prima che questo sia È stato pubblicato nei teatri:

(immagine)

Storie completamente indipendenti, ma inquietante nel fatto che entrambi sono legati a "9282 giorni". Avevo scoperto in precedenza, ma questo non è stato possibile trovare qualsiasi tipo di tie-in.

Poi, un lettore di blog chiamato _XScape_ mi manda il seguente appena pubblicato foto. E 'da un sito web chiamato 24 / 7 Smash che ha pubblicato alcuni video rari di MJ, e subito dopo la mostra una bara d'oro. Il significato? Una volta degli uomini l'immagine è un berretto da baseball dei Philadelphia Phillies!!

Questa è una coincidenza molto strana e siamo nel processo di ricerca di ulteriori ...

Da ESMERALDA Mar Mar 30, 2010 4:57 pm

ragazze avete notato il video che 1 ragazza a messo su news e rumors( sulla discussione che la polizia a trovato le creme sbiancanti a casa di michael) be e un video un po contro le nostre teorie Shocked

Da ESMERALDA Mar Mar 30, 2010 4:59 pm

FABYOLA ha scritto:ragazze avete notato il video che 1 ragazza a messo su news e rumors( sulla discussione che la polizia a trovato le creme sbiancanti a casa di michael) be e un video un po contro le nostre teorie

il video e intitolato:michael vivo????no morto. .

Da lella Mar Mar 30, 2010 5:09 pm

tranquilla...............
non esistono creme sbiancanti, lo puoi chiedere a qualsiasi dermatologo.........esistono creme che servono per quel tipo di malattia a omogeneizzare il colore della pelle, è come un fondotinta, solo che quel tipo di crema oltre a coprire tiene idratata la pelle. una conseguenza della vitiligine è la super sensibilità della parte colpita, come se fosse pelle bruciata. quindi..........................

Da ^Vale-Heal the world-^ Mar Mar 30, 2010 5:10 pm

Non sanno più cosa inventarsi..

EDIT:

Non so se è già stato postato.. Embarassed

TIAI Update #4a: 777 + 999 = Greatest Proof Hoax, Not Murder

For those losing hope or getting tired, Update #4 here should give you a huge jolt! Today is exactly half of a year since 9-9-09. This update will go into great detail about the 7 steps in the timing of the hoax: 911 call (12:21), death (2:26), memorial (7-7), burial (9-3), resurrection (9-9-09), return (“piece by piece”, now in progress), and finally the bam! Previously, TIAI has focused on the why’s of the hoax, and a little on the timing {http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/search.php?author_id=1440&sr=posts}; now, TIAI is focusing on the when’s of the hoax, and a little on the how’s.

Whether or not you have read any of the previous TIAI posts, I highly recommend that you read this one—it will surely kill the murder theory (as well as any MJ literal death theory). In fact, if there is ever any TIAI post that you need to read: This Is It!!!

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4-1. Outline for TIAI Update #4

Note: because this update is very long, it is broken into four parts.

TIAI Update #4a: 777 + 999 = Greatest Proof of Hoax, Not Murder
4-1. Outline for TIAI Update #4
4-2. Introduction for Update #4
4-3. TIAI Redirections Since Update #3
4-4. Brief Review: 4 Major Reasons MJ Is Alive
4-5. A Couple of Recent Major Events
4-6. Is TMZ Just Playing Games?

TIAI Update #4b: 777 + 999 = Greatest Proof of Hoax, Not Murder
4-7. The Red Shirt & “777”
4-8. Numbers 4 Evil & Numbers 4 Good
4-9. Why Does 7 Represent Perfection?
4-10. Rounding: Down, Nearest Whole, and Up
4-11. 77 & 7 Days From the “Death”, & “Burial” to the “Resurrection”
4-12. Number 9 Represents Regeneration (Resurrection)
4-13. MJ “1998” Autographs
4-14. The Autograph on “Dangerous”
4-15. MJ “Resurrection” Before “Return”
4-16. Autopsy Report “9-9-09, Date Finalized”
4-17. “This Is It” Movie Poster on 9-9-09
4-18. Jermaine and La Toya Supported 9-9-09
4-19. Stock Market Bottom on 3-6: 666!
4-20 The Idiot-Maker Rally Started on 3-9
4-21. 777 + 999 = 1776; Greatest Demonstration for Freedom

TIAI Update #4c: 777 + 999 = Greatest Proof of Hoax, Not Murder
4-22. 777 + 333 + 111 = 1221; 777 + 1221 = 1998
4-23. The 911 Call Was at 12:21
4-24. Was the “Death” Time (2:26) Also Planned?
4-25. The End of the World Is Good News!
4-26. Can a False Alarm Eliminate a Real Danger?
4-27. Did MJ Ever Think of a Thriller Sequel?
4-28. MJ Certainly Had Something Big Planned
4-29. Hoax Timing, the Bigger Picture
4-30. Coincidence: Odds of 7 Versus 777
4-31. Any Chance That This Was Just Chance?

TIAI Update #4d: 777 + 999 = Greatest Proof of Hoax, Not Murder
4-32. Would a “Death Hoax” Murder Plot Convince the Family???
4-33. Does the NWO Promote the End of the World?
4-34. Is TIAI Part of a Murder Conspiracy?
4-35. TIAI Appeal to TINI Followers
4-36. Hoax Objections Answered
4-37. Hints on the “How’s” of the Hoax
4-38. Only a Few Would Need to Be “In On It”
4-39. Piece by Piece Return, Versus Bamsday
4-40. High Probability of MJ “Return” in January 2010
4-41. Bam: Not If, But When
4-42. Guilty Until Acquitted, Still Guilty After Acquitted
4-43. For Those Losing Faith: the Trial Is Not Over Yet
4-44. Do You Still Need Even More Evidence???????-??

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4-2. Introduction for Update #4

This update is about 777, 9-9-09, and the highly planned timing of the hoax. This is the same subject, with much more detail, that I posted on the original MJHD with the username STUDY (posted on 9-7-09). That was my very first post; and many wondered where I came from all of a sudden, where I got the information from, and whether I was MJ himself—or at least someone very close to MJ.

Now, half of a year later, I am going to give far more information about the timing of the hoax—including the timing of the autopsy report, finalized on 9-9-09; this report came out one day after my Update #3 {http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=0&t=5024&p=78302}, which stated clearly that my next update (#4) would be about 9-9-09.

For the sake of new hoax believers, or non-hoax believers (murder theory advocates, etc): I designed this update so that you can follow most everything, without reading any of the previous TIAI posts. Therefore, a few things are repeated here that were already covered in my previous posts.

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4-3. TIAI Redirections Since Update #3

The first set of TIAI redirects were labelled R1 through R49 {http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/search.php?author_id=1440&sr=posts}. However, this second set of redirects (all between Update #3 & #4) will be labelled based on the date of the redirection; and then the numbers {in braces} indicate what section in this update is on the same subject as that redirection. Also, remember that none of the information was created by me; TIAI only pointed to information that is already out there in cyberspace.

2-8 {4-1} Elsa; figured out 9-9-09 update on March 9.
{http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=50&t=5024&start=25#p79781}

2-9 {4-16} ForstAMoon; noticed 9-9-09 on the coroner’s report.
{http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=50&t=5024&start=50#p81606}

2-10 {4-16} Last page of autopsy report, including 9-9-09.
{http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/years/2010/0208101jackson23.html}

2-11 {4-16} LA Coroner info, compare seal with MJ report, etc.
{http://coroner.lacounty.gov/htm/info_eng.pdf}

2-12 {4-16} LA Coroner request form, ask about problems in MJ report.
{http://coroner.lacounty.gov/htm/inqfrm.cfm}

2-13 {4-16} TMZ; MJ “in great shape” (Hulk).
{http://www.tmz.com/2009/06/30/mjs-trainer-he-could-still-walk-the-walk/}

2-14 {4-41} Happy Valentines Day!
{http://c4.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/9/l_5b19bf8eef9c4320b031d7732d1635ef.gif}

2-15 {4-6} tklein1014; about TMZ article: “its all a hoax” (MJ & Murray).
{http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=48&t=5565#p87728}

2-16 {4-42} MJalive999; video, Murray Condemned Without Trial!
{https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UgCMNCGskWo}

2-17 {4-42} CNN; used “unnamed source” against Murray.
{https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UAWwnjaMxpg}

2-18 {4-42} Mo; only statement from Murray himself was the YouTube video.
{http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=72&t=5786#p91572}

2-19 {4-42} 2 Thessalonians 2:11; media & public believe a lie.
{http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=2%20thes%202:11&version=KJV}

2-20 {4-41} ImmabeLIEver05; LOVE is Michael’s message.
{https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QhAxTYemoQM}

2-21 {4-41} karmaknowstruth; personal testimony of living the LOVE.
{http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=48&t=5565&start=100#p89984}

2-22 {4-7} ILikeTrains; MJ red shirt with “777” on it.
{http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=72&t=27&start=125#p2255}

2-23 {4-7} Very first TII picture, same red shirt.
{http://cm1.theinsider.com/thumbnail/400/594/cm1.theinsider.com/media/0/535/23/Vz_3a4jyvmbX0CLc5pUMmqGZAMpj8zaR4o.jpg}

2-24 {4-7} First TII video clip (TDRCAU), same red shirt.
{https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qE22UOlQts}

2-25 {4-7} TII movie poster, same red shirt everywhere.
{http://www.mjjcn.com/THISISIT.jpg}

2-26 {4-23 & 4-24} 911 call at 12:21; “death” at 2:26.
{http://www.nowpublic.com/world/michael-jackson-dies-age-50-cardiac-arrest-2-26-pm-pdt}

2-27 {4-23} Em; 911 call same as end of Mayan calendar (12:21).
{http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=6033#p96269}

2-28 {4-25} Revelation 21:1,4; end of the world is good news.
{http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=revelation%2021:1,4&version=KJV}

3-1 {4-11} MTV; burial delayed again (to 9-3), no reason given.
{http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1619227/20090821/jackson_michael.jhtml}

3-2 {4-21 & 4-39} Light Man introduction.
{https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GooyC24NOdY}

3-3 {4-14} MJ autograph code on “Dangerous”.
{http://www.lipstickalley.com/5032753-post16245.html}

3-4 {4-21} Fireworks; red, white, and blues; July 4.
{http://www.friendsforourriverfront.org/uploaded_images/fireworks9-778829.jpg}

3-5 {4-20} Anniversary of O2 conference, similarities with “V for Vendetta”.
{https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=thChiBDudSs}

3-6 {4-19} CNNMoney; stock market bottom on 3-6: 666!
{http://money.cnn.com/2010/03/04/markets/thebuzz/index.htm}

3-7 {4-30} cgfm011; TMZ video on MJ coincidence with 7’s.
{https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2TCDRz1cGKQ}

3-8 {4-20} The idiot-maker rally started on 3-9.
{http://www.philstockworld.com/2010/01/08/the-idiot-maker-rally-continues/}

3-9 {4-1} Back to 9-9-09 update on 3-9 (and Coroner’s Report).
{http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=50&t=5024&start=50#p81606}

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4-4. Brief Review: 4 Major Reasons MJ Is Alive

Before getting into the meat of this update—for the sake of any hoax newbie’s (or even for seasoned hoaxers who need a reminder)—here are four major reasons to believe that MJ faked his death: #1 how the family has re-acted; #2 the Liberian Girl pictures at the memorial, and later the burial; #3 MJ’s remake of the Gilda movie, with a faked death, in This Is It (TII); #4 the lack of any MJ RIP in the TII cinema version, the TII DVD version, the 1-31-2010 Grammys, and TMZ (for seven months).

Why did the Jackson children look bored at the memorial? Where was the grief? Where were the tears, running down the faces of any of the Jacksons? Oh yes, they were all wearing sunglasses (indoors), so we could not see their grief and tears—or perhaps, was it so that we would not see the lack of grief and tears?

The memorial, and the funeral/burial two months later, had pictures from Liberian Girl; in fact, at the burial, the only two pictures up front were both Liberian Girl pictures. In case anyone doesn’t know, Liberian Girl is the video where MJ directed from behind the scenes; and nobody could see him, until the end. Here is the Liberian Girl video {https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3V-7DEAgdc}, and notice what MJ is wearing at the end; for funeral/burial program cover {http://new.etonline.com/documents/mjackson_funeral_program_et_090409.pdf}. Here is the Liberian Girl photo {http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberian_Girl; and here is the main funeral/burial photo {https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q4f0Cm0Qehg at 1:09}.

MJ was a fan of old movies, and he was obviously well aware of Gilda—since he did a short remake of it for Smooth Criminal in TII {https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CD_bVPEPAUo; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gilda}. Since MJ was well aware of this movie: no doubt he knew that one of the main characters, Ballin Mundson, was played by George Macready {http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Macready}—an actor who had the same birthday as MJ! And to really top it all off: in the original Gilda movie, this same man “faked his death”! Surely that did not slip the attention of MJ! And surely, this is one of the main reasons he chose to remake this film.

Finally, after MJ supposedly died on June 25, we have had four major cases of dementia: the Grammys (MJ not listed in the musicians who had died since the previous year); TII cinema movie (no mention of MJ death or RIP); TII DVD, with additional material on it (and still no direct mention of 1958-2009, or RIP); and TMZ forgot MJ on their celebrity RIP page for seven months, until hoax believers reminded them about it {http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=50&t=4986}.

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4-5. A Couple of Recent Major Events

Two fairly significant events happened last month, both about the same time. Jackson attorney Brian Oxman came out and stated that there is a is 99.9% chance the ambulance photo is fake {http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=48&t=5820; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lbGrrNyMpZY}. Remember, this is the one and only “official” picture of MJ we have ever seen; and now we learn that it was photo-shopped. Actually, we knew it all along; but at least someone has finally stepped up to the plate and admitted it.

True, this does not prove that MJ is alive; the photo could’ve been faked for several reasons. However, it is quite significant that the ambulance photo was one of the very first things that hoax believers recognized was fishy. And now, more than half of a year later, we are hearing through a respected source that our first conclusion was correct! Perhaps, just maybe, we might also be right in some of our other conclusions.

Actually there was another belief, early in the hoax—that MJ went to LAX, hopped on a private jet, and flew out of town on June 25, 2009. Well, Jermaine has been nice enough to confirm this hoax belief also; Jermaine said: “He was very, very healthy but Michael was not with us, way before he arrived to the airport. ... I mean way before he arrived to the hospital.” {https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bd0SoaOe-cs; http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=5836}

Was this an intentional goof (big hint)? If so, we have an MJ death hoax! Or was it a Freudian slip? If so, we still have a hoax! Notice that shortly before saying “airport”, he paused a bit; so there was ample time for him to collect his thoughts, and get the wording right. Also, what is the likelihood that Jermaine, a professional performer for the Jackson 5, would be so sloppy as to make such a goof accidentally?

Furthermore, how could you mix up an airport with a hospital—they are not similar: either in meaning, or in pronunciation. And if it was just a random goof, having nothing to do with the hospital or the hoax: then why the word “airport”? It would be just as likely to goof up and say the “golf course”, or the “barber shop”, or the “mall”, or “Pizza Hut”, or “Mount Everest”, or anything whatsoever OTHER than the AIRPORT!!!

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4-6. Is TMZ Just Playing Games?

TMZ has also had some very interesting things recently, including putting the http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxdeath.net website right on the TMZ article! They took it down later, but you can still see a screen shot of it in this thread {http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=48&t=6666&start=100#p107875; see also http://www.tmz.com/2010/03/04/debbie-rowe-visits-michael-jacksons-grave-mausoleum/}.

TMZ had another article recently, mentioning both Conrad Murray and Michael Jackson; and among other interesting things, they had the following phrase: “it’s all a hoax”! But there would be no reason for the word “all”, unless they were subtly referring to much more than just the Twitter account. {http://www.tmz.com/2010/02/12/dr-conrad-murray-impostor-exposed; and see this thread http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=48&t=5565#p87728}

In a different article about Conrad Murray, TMZ said: “Long before he may or may not have been responsible for the death of Michael Jackson, Dr. Conrad Murray was just another guy enjoying Carnival in Trinidad.” {http://www.tmz.com/2010/02/14/dr-conrad-murray-carnival-michael-jackson-photos-picture} Whether or not TMZ is playing: they are thousands of miles ahead of the public and the media who are condemning Murray before the trial; at least TMZ is admitting that Murray may not be guilty (innocent until proven guilty).

Now compare that last “or may not” article with this one, from about one week earlier: “Murray showed up at Forest Lawn Memorial Park on Wednesday afternoon to visit the tomb of the man he may or may not have accidentally killed.” {http://www.tmz.com/2010/02/07/conrad-murray-michael-jackson-tomb-forest-lawn-photos; see also TIAI Update #3, http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=0&t=5024&p=78302}.

Some believe that TMZ is giving valuable clues about the hoax, but others believe that TMZ is just playing around with hoax believers; here is a good thread on that subject. {http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=6711}

If TMZ is just goofing off, though, then why have they been first to report many things related to the Jacksons? Do you think that the video from the Murray court was all made up by TMZ, just to laugh at a few thousand hoax believers? And was TMZ merely playing games when they said that the FBI would release 333 pages of MJ files, or did the files actually get released? Was TMZ just playing games when they said the investigation was complete in early January, or did things actually move forward a few weeks later?

In fact, let’s go back to June 25, 2009. Was TMZ just playing games, when they were the first to announce that Michael Jackson had died? Or did the rest of the media also verify the death soon after? So TMZ was not just playing around on June 25: because when they said MJ died, he really died—wait a minute, woops, maybe TMZ was playing around on June 25! Okay, so I guess it’s true: maybe TMZ does goof off a little bit now and then.

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Da ESMERALDA Mar Mar 30, 2010 5:14 pm

si ma avete visto quel video?

Da pat77 Mar Mar 30, 2010 5:31 pm

Oggi sul tg1 hanno parlato di Mike! Purtroppo non ho potuto seguire bene ciò che è stato detto! La conduttrice ha dato la parola per " la moda costume per l' estate" e, invece i primi pochi minuti sono stati dedicati al re del pop, al quale bisogna ridare quella " dignità" che gli è stata negata in vita, così mi sembra di poter interpretare il messaggio lanciato! Mi ha fatto piacere sentire parlare di lui...ma mi è preso anche un "magone"!! piangere

Da Shamone 88 Mar Mar 30, 2010 5:41 pm

vale è già stato postato ma tranquilla flower

fabyola quel video lo conosco e posso dirti che a me non fa nessun effetto!!!!!!

EDIT:anche se la tecnica backmasking non mi convince vi posto questo video